Comments on: Geary BRT meeting well attended http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/ News, information, photos, videos and history about the Richmond District neighborhood of San Francisco. Fri, 18 May 2012 21:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Laurie http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Laurie Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:51:57 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-390 The problem is not with the 38 line in the Richmond. It's with the stops east of Masonic. I suggest we leave the Richmond alone; otherwise it will divert traffic to the side streets that are incapable of handling them. If we go down this route, we will be wasting lots of money and won't see any improvements. The problem is not with the 38 line in the Richmond. It’s with the stops east of Masonic. I suggest we leave the Richmond alone; otherwise it will divert traffic to the side streets that are incapable of handling them. If we go down this route, we will be wasting lots of money and won’t see any improvements.

]]> By: localsonly http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-284 localsonly Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:52:48 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-284 I prefer the center running brt with side platforms which will not require special buses and which, through the use of the twin outside medians, will allow for ample tree and foliage planting along the outsides of the right of way, thus reducing visual blight, increasing space for trees etc, resulting in noise reduction as well. This option also give the max separation of BRT from traffic lanes creating the most distinctly exclusive right of way. By planting trees on both outside medians, by the time the trees mature and the right of way is ready to be converted to light rail someday, the will be plenty of foliage in place to effectively hide future catenary and noise from the adjacent properties. I prefer the center running brt with side platforms which will not require special buses and which, through the use of the twin outside medians, will allow for ample tree and foliage planting along the outsides of the right of way, thus reducing visual blight, increasing space for trees etc, resulting in noise reduction as well. This option also give the max separation of BRT from traffic lanes creating the most distinctly exclusive right of way. By planting trees on both outside medians, by the time the trees mature and the right of way is ready to be converted to light rail someday, the will be plenty of foliage in place to effectively hide future catenary and noise from the adjacent properties.

]]> By: Jonathan http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-273 Jonathan Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:20:14 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-273 What we really need is an extensive underground metro system. Since it is clear that is going to happen for a while, let's put in the bus lane and be done with it. People will appreciate it once they have it, and in 10 years after it is operating, people will start to think about how nice it would be to have an underground muni metro line. What we really need is an extensive underground metro system. Since it is clear that is going to happen for a while, let’s put in the bus lane and be done with it. People will appreciate it once they have it, and in 10 years after it is operating, people will start to think about how nice it would be to have an underground muni metro line.

]]> By: San Francisco Real Estate: “The Scoop” » Blog Archive » Progress on Geary BRT Almost as Agonizingly Slow as the 38 http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-266 San Francisco Real Estate: “The Scoop” » Blog Archive » Progress on Geary BRT Almost as Agonizingly Slow as the 38 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:55 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-266 [...] Get Where You’re Going Faster [SFist] · Geary BRT Meeting Well-Attended [Richmond SF Blog] · The Bus Rapid Transit Battle of Geary in San Francisco [Triple Pundit] · [...] [...] Get Where You’re Going Faster [SFist] · Geary BRT Meeting Well-Attended [Richmond SF Blog] · The Bus Rapid Transit Battle of Geary in San Francisco [Triple Pundit] · [...]

]]> By: Joe http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Joe Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:39:17 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-201 The simple fact that its going to take till 2015 to implement BRT is insane - anyone who doesnt see that has ulterior motives. You will never get consensus in San Francisco. All planning processes that are open to the public will be delayed ad nauseum while differing takes on NIMBYism are displayed. Exactly how much money has been spent placating ONE single naysayer ? The 38 Geary moves more people daily than any bus line west of the Mississippi and studies show the riders spend less than 50% of the time moving - and STILL calls for more delays? It's time to realize that some things are just about a persons sense of control - and some people will never be happy with things. Grow a pair SF, and just recognize that some people need to shut up and get out of the way of progress for the city as a whole. The simple fact that its going to take till 2015 to implement BRT is insane – anyone who doesnt see that has ulterior motives.
You will never get consensus in San Francisco. All planning processes that are open to the public will be delayed ad nauseum while differing takes on NIMBYism are displayed.
Exactly how much money has been spent placating ONE single naysayer ? The 38 Geary moves more people daily than any bus line west of the Mississippi and studies show the riders spend less than 50% of the time moving – and STILL calls for more delays?
It’s time to realize that some things are just about a persons sense of control – and some people will never be happy with things. Grow a pair SF, and just recognize that some people need to shut up and get out of the way of progress for the city as a whole.

]]> By: Chris http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Chris Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:15:48 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-177 I attended the meeting and promptly remembered why I stopped going to these things years ago and just started emailing my thoughts directly to the supervisors and others. The only people that show up and ask questions are those that are convinced that any change will result in armageddon. As witnessed by David's post above, IN SPITE OF the fact that improvements on Geary have been demanded time and time again at the ballot box, he wants this to go to the ballot box again, simply because he's not getting his way. Too often, folks around here that go to these meetings think that, "Well, they're not doing what I'm asking for, so clearly they're not listening!" I'm (along with dozens of my friends) going to stick with sending direct correspondence to the correct folks in government rather than go to another one of these b@#%fests completely controlled by selfish folks unwilling to listen or consider that change could (and will be) good. I attended the meeting and promptly remembered why I stopped going to these things years ago and just started emailing my thoughts directly to the supervisors and others. The only people that show up and ask questions are those that are convinced that any change will result in armageddon. As witnessed by David’s post above, IN SPITE OF the fact that improvements on Geary have been demanded time and time again at the ballot box, he wants this to go to the ballot box again, simply because he’s not getting his way. Too often, folks around here that go to these meetings think that, “Well, they’re not doing what I’m asking for, so clearly they’re not listening!”

I’m (along with dozens of my friends) going to stick with sending direct correspondence to the correct folks in government rather than go to another one of these b@#%fests completely controlled by selfish folks unwilling to listen or consider that change could (and will be) good.

]]> By: David http://richmondsfblog.com/2009/07/27/geary-brt-meeting-well-attended/comment-page-1/#comment-172 David Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:25:17 +0000 http://richmondsfblog.com/blog/?p=1194#comment-172 After attending more than 10 meetings and hearing the same concerns with no action it is frustrating. It has always been about a sales job not a public meeting for interchange of ideas. Agreed there is no actual overlap planned for the two projects,back to back is still not the greatest. I am a firm believer in transit and bikes,crikey can't we change the bus routes and priority for busses first without putting the house of bagels etc out of business? The most infuriating part of this is the smug attitude I see at these meetings.Simple courtesy- repeat the question, so others can hear it. (How many times did we ask for that?)acknowledge the concerns give people some hope their voice matter by reflecting changes in the projects. No, we are racing ahead programmed to give the answers and are not listening- I do not care someone's office is next to another so somehow that makes things ok -that is the impression- and reason- to move the decision on this project to the ballot box again. After attending more than 10 meetings and hearing the same concerns with no action it is frustrating. It has always been about a sales job not a public meeting for interchange of ideas. Agreed there is no actual overlap planned for the two projects,back to back is still not the greatest. I am a firm believer in transit and bikes,crikey can’t we change the bus routes and priority for busses first without putting the house of bagels etc out of business?
The most infuriating part of this is the smug attitude I see at these meetings.Simple courtesy- repeat the question, so others can hear it. (How many times did we ask for that?)acknowledge the concerns give people some hope their voice matter by reflecting changes in the projects. No, we are racing ahead programmed to give the answers and are not listening- I do not care someone’s office is next to another so somehow that makes things ok -that is the impression- and reason- to move the decision on this project to the ballot box again.

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