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		<title>By: Anne Trickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Trickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have no problems riding the #38 and I live at 43rd AVE. The problem isn&#039;t the 38, it&#039;s transferring to other MUNI lines that are not as efficient. For example, I work at 3rd and Cesar Chavez. Transferring from the #38 to the T line can take anywhere from 10 minutes to 45 minutes. This has nothing to do with the Geary line and everything to do with the T. If I only had to get downtown I could take the 38X and be there in under 40 minutes every day, but adding the T line to my journey increases my commute to between 1 and a half to 2 hours ONE WAY. No wonder many of us drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have no problems riding the #38 and I live at 43rd AVE. The problem isn&#8217;t the 38, it&#8217;s transferring to other MUNI lines that are not as efficient. For example, I work at 3rd and Cesar Chavez. Transferring from the #38 to the T line can take anywhere from 10 minutes to 45 minutes. This has nothing to do with the Geary line and everything to do with the T. If I only had to get downtown I could take the 38X and be there in under 40 minutes every day, but adding the T line to my journey increases my commute to between 1 and a half to 2 hours ONE WAY. No wonder many of us drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Highlights from the Richmond District Mayoral Debate &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highlights from the Richmond District Mayoral Debate &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] transit on the Geary Corridor Candidates were asked to weigh in on the proposed Geary Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) project, a subject of much debate among Richmond District residents. The project is designed to speed up buses and make service more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] transit on the Geary Corridor Candidates were asked to weigh in on the proposed Geary Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) project, a subject of much debate among Richmond District residents. The project is designed to speed up buses and make service more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good example of light rail done correctly... Munich&#039;s S-Bahn - easy to use, clean, punctual, etc. That&#039;s the model San Francisco should be looking towards. Start with lines down Geary, Van Ness, and the extension of the rail down the Embarcadero to Fort Mason and then go from there. The BRT sounds Ok if we actually lay the tracks at the same time so moving to rail is pretty easy when the cost justifies it, but any solution that doesn&#039;t lay the track while creating the new lanes is a waste of time IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good example of light rail done correctly&#8230; Munich&#8217;s S-Bahn &#8211; easy to use, clean, punctual, etc. That&#8217;s the model San Francisco should be looking towards. Start with lines down Geary, Van Ness, and the extension of the rail down the Embarcadero to Fort Mason and then go from there. The BRT sounds Ok if we actually lay the tracks at the same time so moving to rail is pretty easy when the cost justifies it, but any solution that doesn&#8217;t lay the track while creating the new lanes is a waste of time IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Parklet&#8221; to Come to the Richmond Without Controversy &#171; Exploring Outside Lands</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Parklet&#8221; to Come to the Richmond Without Controversy &#171; Exploring Outside Lands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of was the controversial Geary Bus Rapid Transit Program. This program is a source of seemingly endless controversy in the Richmond and its primary opposition is led by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I apologize. I never meant to say BRT is &quot;just as good&quot; as rail. Still, BRT on Geary is needed immediately. I am taking the &quot;pro&quot; side and saying NO to the &quot;con&quot; side. This is the dark side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I apologize. I never meant to say BRT is &#8220;just as good&#8221; as rail. Still, BRT on Geary is needed immediately. I am taking the &#8220;pro&#8221; side and saying NO to the &#8220;con&#8221; side. This is the dark side.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, rail is too expensive for Geary at this time. Therefore, BRT is the best we can do. I like rail, but it is too expensive.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. BRT on Geary and Van Ness and in Oakland are all needed NOW. Bus rapid transit can do everything rail does at a fraction of the cost. It is just as good as rail. And if/when ridership is high enough, BRT can be converted to rail. Ottawa&#039;s Transitway has paved the way for bus rapid transit worldwide, including this project, which as I said is needed RIGHT NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. BRT on Geary and Van Ness and in Oakland are all needed NOW. Bus rapid transit can do everything rail does at a fraction of the cost. It is just as good as rail. And if/when ridership is high enough, BRT can be converted to rail. Ottawa&#8217;s Transitway has paved the way for bus rapid transit worldwide, including this project, which as I said is needed RIGHT NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>open letter to David Heller

Mr. Heller,

there are a number of issues with Geary Boulevard that you fail to consider in the planning for a proposed BRT project. but these should be obvious by now; after all, youâ€™ve participated in this debate from the beginning.

from the start, youâ€™ve trotted out the same presuppositions -- that BRT without a doubt would snarl traffic, change shoppersâ€™ habits, decimate businesses, wreck the Richmond as you know it. youâ€™ve boned up on your transportation expertise, and have decided that diamond lanes and GPS devices would do the trick, simple as that.

another criticism youâ€™ve made over and over is that the SFMTA doesnâ€™t listen or respond to the concerns of merchants and residents. City planners, bureaucrats and consultants are just going ahead and doing what they want anyway, spending and pocketing millions of dollars in the process.

itâ€™s high time to say the following: probably no other party in this dynamic discussion has been as rigid and selfish as you. aside from noting some tweaks, your letter is but a big beef that says there are no gimmes for merchants in the project. your next one could come out with it and ask, â€œWhatâ€™s in this thing for me?â€

as i wrote in my comment above, merchants are essential to the boulevard, but investing in transit is a boon residents, visitors, students and even merchants *as a whole*. this blind spot, where you see only what you want or what you ought to get, may be your grandest failure in the entire Geary endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open letter to David Heller</p>
<p>Mr. Heller,</p>
<p>there are a number of issues with Geary Boulevard that you fail to consider in the planning for a proposed BRT project. but these should be obvious by now; after all, youâ€™ve participated in this debate from the beginning.</p>
<p>from the start, youâ€™ve trotted out the same presuppositions &#8212; that BRT without a doubt would snarl traffic, change shoppersâ€™ habits, decimate businesses, wreck the Richmond as you know it. youâ€™ve boned up on your transportation expertise, and have decided that diamond lanes and GPS devices would do the trick, simple as that.</p>
<p>another criticism youâ€™ve made over and over is that the SFMTA doesnâ€™t listen or respond to the concerns of merchants and residents. City planners, bureaucrats and consultants are just going ahead and doing what they want anyway, spending and pocketing millions of dollars in the process.</p>
<p>itâ€™s high time to say the following: probably no other party in this dynamic discussion has been as rigid and selfish as you. aside from noting some tweaks, your letter is but a big beef that says there are no gimmes for merchants in the project. your next one could come out with it and ask, â€œWhatâ€™s in this thing for me?â€</p>
<p>as i wrote in my comment above, merchants are essential to the boulevard, but investing in transit is a boon residents, visitors, students and even merchants *as a whole*. this blind spot, where you see only what you want or what you ought to get, may be your grandest failure in the entire Geary endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to everyone for your comments and feedback on this post and the Geary BRT. I am glad that it has sparked discussion on this important issue.

Just a reminder to keep your comments on topic and relevant to the Geary BRT project. Many thanks,

Sarah B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to everyone for your comments and feedback on this post and the Geary BRT. I am glad that it has sparked discussion on this important issue.</p>
<p>Just a reminder to keep your comments on topic and relevant to the Geary BRT project. Many thanks,</p>
<p>Sarah B.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paris&#039;s first modern tramway (light rail), the T3, or &#039;Tramway des MarÃ©chaux&#039;, opened in December 2006. It&#039;s a dignified, even classy, system -- people love it. Check out this video (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linternaute.com/video/18986/le-tramway-de-paris-est-sur-les-rails/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;) and see how similar that boulevard is to Geary -- it&#039;s uncanny. It was built for about $100 million per mile -- less than what we&#039;d expect Geary to cost for a similar system -- twice what BRT will cost, but unlike BRT, it will do the job it promises to do, and it will actually add capacity to our system, and provide people with a dignified alternative to their cars.

Here&#039;s the English-language wiki page (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Tramway_Line_3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).

And here&#039;s a Streetsblog post from December 2007 that first tipped us off to this stellar piece of transit infrastructure (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/04/good-streets-include-streetcars/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).

And whether you prefer Geary have buses or trains, make sure to get the pedestrian and bicycle experience right -- it increases the capacity/liveliness/livability/dynamism/business vitality of a street, and it does all that in part because cyclists help to make everyone safer -- not just other cyclists, not just pedestrians, but even car drivers -- we have the data. 

Do what NYC wants to do with their BRT routes (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/18/world-class-avenues-for-the-east-side-what-great-brt-looks-like/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;) -- provide bicycle infrastructure -- it&#039;s the minimum that is required, so it&#039;s the minimum that we should do.

and this morning we had just the latest in a long line of grisly auto-against-pedestrian killings in San Francisco -- this one while the 70-year old victim was in the crosswalk on Geary, at Ninth Avenue (&lt;a href=&quot;http://cbs5.com/local/pedestrian.hit.injured.2.1322518.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;). the driver hit her, knocked her 20 feet through the air, then slowly rolled over her again. horrific scene. people waiting for the bus are watching the whole thing play out. blood everywhere:

&lt;em&gt;Kong was struck at about 8:15 a.m. by a white van that had been traveling south on Ninth Avenue and turned onto eastbound Geary Boulevard, according to police spokesman Officer Samson Chan. No one else was hurt.&lt;/em&gt;

what, exactly, is it going to take before people get indignant? do car drivers really believe they have the right to terrorize the city at will? we need to tame the auto traffic on Geary Boulevard, and make Geary Boulevard a place that people care about -- a place that people want to be. right now, nobody &lt;em&gt;wants&lt;/em&gt; to be on Geary except for the reason that it has the bus routes, and it provides the most direct route from Point A to Point B -- there&#039;s no reason we have to accept that it should be a horrifically dirty and dangerous place.

give people walkability and bikability, and give them dignified transit -- then watch Geary Boulevard blossom. it&#039;s a simple recipe -- all it takes is a little bit decency. even if you hate your children and grandchildren, then do it for Ms. Kong, and all the other people who have been killed, and are yet to be killed, on Geary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris&#8217;s first modern tramway (light rail), the T3, or &#8216;Tramway des MarÃ©chaux&#8217;, opened in December 2006. It&#8217;s a dignified, even classy, system &#8212; people love it. Check out this video (<a href="http://www.linternaute.com/video/18986/le-tramway-de-paris-est-sur-les-rails/" rel="nofollow">link</a>) and see how similar that boulevard is to Geary &#8212; it&#8217;s uncanny. It was built for about $100 million per mile &#8212; less than what we&#8217;d expect Geary to cost for a similar system &#8212; twice what BRT will cost, but unlike BRT, it will do the job it promises to do, and it will actually add capacity to our system, and provide people with a dignified alternative to their cars.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the English-language wiki page (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Tramway_Line_3" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a Streetsblog post from December 2007 that first tipped us off to this stellar piece of transit infrastructure (<a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/04/good-streets-include-streetcars/" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>And whether you prefer Geary have buses or trains, make sure to get the pedestrian and bicycle experience right &#8212; it increases the capacity/liveliness/livability/dynamism/business vitality of a street, and it does all that in part because cyclists help to make everyone safer &#8212; not just other cyclists, not just pedestrians, but even car drivers &#8212; we have the data. </p>
<p>Do what NYC wants to do with their BRT routes (<a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/18/world-class-avenues-for-the-east-side-what-great-brt-looks-like/" rel="nofollow">link</a>) &#8212; provide bicycle infrastructure &#8212; it&#8217;s the minimum that is required, so it&#8217;s the minimum that we should do.</p>
<p>and this morning we had just the latest in a long line of grisly auto-against-pedestrian killings in San Francisco &#8212; this one while the 70-year old victim was in the crosswalk on Geary, at Ninth Avenue (<a href="http://cbs5.com/local/pedestrian.hit.injured.2.1322518.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>). the driver hit her, knocked her 20 feet through the air, then slowly rolled over her again. horrific scene. people waiting for the bus are watching the whole thing play out. blood everywhere:</p>
<p><em>Kong was struck at about 8:15 a.m. by a white van that had been traveling south on Ninth Avenue and turned onto eastbound Geary Boulevard, according to police spokesman Officer Samson Chan. No one else was hurt.</em></p>
<p>what, exactly, is it going to take before people get indignant? do car drivers really believe they have the right to terrorize the city at will? we need to tame the auto traffic on Geary Boulevard, and make Geary Boulevard a place that people care about &#8212; a place that people want to be. right now, nobody <em>wants</em> to be on Geary except for the reason that it has the bus routes, and it provides the most direct route from Point A to Point B &#8212; there&#8217;s no reason we have to accept that it should be a horrifically dirty and dangerous place.</p>
<p>give people walkability and bikability, and give them dignified transit &#8212; then watch Geary Boulevard blossom. it&#8217;s a simple recipe &#8212; all it takes is a little bit decency. even if you hate your children and grandchildren, then do it for Ms. Kong, and all the other people who have been killed, and are yet to be killed, on Geary.</p>
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