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	<title>Comments on: Safeway shares plans for La Playa store expansion</title>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess that means there goes the view of the ocean from my apartment on the corner of 48th/Cabrillo.</description>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I N MY OPPINION THIS WILL BE WHY SAFEWAY WILL JUSTIFY HIGHER PRICES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD , IT WILL BE COME LIKE DELANOS OVER HERE ON 27 TH AVE. ALL PRICING WILL BE INCREASED TO PAY THEIR BANK NOTE ,  IT LOOKS LIKE ILL BE SHOPPING  AT TRADER JOES , EVEN THOUGH ITS JUST AS FAR AS SAFEWAY. I M TIRED OF GOUGING PRICES . I DONT WANT  TO PAY  THIER FRICKIN MORTGAGE... TO HELL  WITH  A NEW STUCKTURE MEANTIME GET GOUGED AT DELANO&#039;S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I N MY OPPINION THIS WILL BE WHY SAFEWAY WILL JUSTIFY HIGHER PRICES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD , IT WILL BE COME LIKE DELANOS OVER HERE ON 27 TH AVE. ALL PRICING WILL BE INCREASED TO PAY THEIR BANK NOTE ,  IT LOOKS LIKE ILL BE SHOPPING  AT TRADER JOES , EVEN THOUGH ITS JUST AS FAR AS SAFEWAY. I M TIRED OF GOUGING PRICES . I DONT WANT  TO PAY  THIER FRICKIN MORTGAGE&#8230; TO HELL  WITH  A NEW STUCKTURE MEANTIME GET GOUGED AT DELANO&#8217;S.</p>
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		<title>By: Safeway reveals latest renderings for La Playa/Ocean Beach remodel &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safeway reveals latest renderings for La Playa/Ocean Beach remodel &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Known as the &#8220;podium design&#8221;, the initial proposal raised the ire of many neighbors for its scale. The design centered around a 66 foot high entrance at the corner of La Playa and Fulton, and neighbors on the 48th Avenue side complained that the 27 foot wall on the east side would block their light and views. Those same neighbors were concerned about the loading dock being located on 48th Avenue and the potential traffic hazards that Safeway&#8217;s daily deliveries would cause. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Known as the &#8220;podium design&#8221;, the initial proposal raised the ire of many neighbors for its scale. The design centered around a 66 foot high entrance at the corner of La Playa and Fulton, and neighbors on the 48th Avenue side complained that the 27 foot wall on the east side would block their light and views. Those same neighbors were concerned about the loading dock being located on 48th Avenue and the potential traffic hazards that Safeway&#8217;s daily deliveries would cause. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Community meeting on La Playa Safeway remodel to feature new designs &#124; The Ocean Beach Bulletin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community meeting on La Playa Safeway remodel to feature new designs &#124; The Ocean Beach Bulletin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reported by the Richmond SF Blog in January 2010, Safeway released plans for a full renovation of the facilities. But many neighbors balked at the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 04:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further, I can understand some of the reservations on having underground parking and the entrance not at grade but my opinion is that will reduce the homeless problem at the store. Much easier to keep them off of a raised podium then a lot at street level. Also, taking an elevator down to your car will make it harder for them to harass you as you leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further, I can understand some of the reservations on having underground parking and the entrance not at grade but my opinion is that will reduce the homeless problem at the store. Much easier to keep them off of a raised podium then a lot at street level. Also, taking an elevator down to your car will make it harder for them to harass you as you leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 04:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the plans look fantastic. If anything I&#039;d like to see more shops. There are scant few choices in the outer richmond. The shops up the street on la playa I believe don&#039;t do well because of the large retirement center. There are constantly large buses obstructing the front of the shops and dozens of retired people clogging the sidewalks. Not that that&#039;s bad but it isn&#039;t inviting for general retail. The overall impression is one of a hospital or retirement complex.

I also don&#039;t understand the issues with views and scale. The current store and lot are ugly. Sure you can see a sliver of the ocean across the dirty parking lot just past the recycling center. It doesn&#039;t make the view nice. Also, anyone who actually shops at that Safeway knows that it is usually way too crowded. There is plenty of traffic to support a larger store. And, frankly I think the greater choice of options and improved prepared food sections that are sure to come will be great additions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the plans look fantastic. If anything I&#8217;d like to see more shops. There are scant few choices in the outer richmond. The shops up the street on la playa I believe don&#8217;t do well because of the large retirement center. There are constantly large buses obstructing the front of the shops and dozens of retired people clogging the sidewalks. Not that that&#8217;s bad but it isn&#8217;t inviting for general retail. The overall impression is one of a hospital or retirement complex.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand the issues with views and scale. The current store and lot are ugly. Sure you can see a sliver of the ocean across the dirty parking lot just past the recycling center. It doesn&#8217;t make the view nice. Also, anyone who actually shops at that Safeway knows that it is usually way too crowded. There is plenty of traffic to support a larger store. And, frankly I think the greater choice of options and improved prepared food sections that are sure to come will be great additions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow,  everybody SEEMS so smart. Everybody has an opinion. Everybody wants to get into the act. I think it would be advantageous if opinions were kept simple and to the point. Quit focusing on what you don&#039;t want and angle in on a solution. There should be a concise list of pro&#039;s and cons. I&#039;m sure if there is a benevolent architect out there or if the right person at Safeway is into pleasing it&#039;s neighbors, there is a perfect solution for all. That excludes the few that will find fault with anything that is done. It&#039;s not hard to find out what is currently existing, in terms of structure, already, so I&#039;m sure someone could draft the &quot;perfect&quot; solution to the upgrade and that would be a great starting point. It may not be cost effective, at first for Safeway,  but it will be a great starting point to &quot;sculpt&quot; the best resolution for this project. Example: THIS projection will make the neighbors happy. It may cost a little more in terms of year end investments for Safeway yet in the long run if you have happy people it creates good will. You won&#039;t have neighbors saying that there irked and they&#039;d rather drive somewhere else and shop because they&#039;re not going to support a store that doesn&#039;t care that they are intentionally obstructing their view. I may be naive but I&#039;m convinced a good architect could come up with winning plan that would appease 98% concerned. I don&#039;t live near the Safeway so I wouldn&#039;t be affected. With that in mind, if what&#039;s proposed really doesn&#039;t affect the residents view, I think it&#039;s a great idea. I&#039;d love to see a Java Beach Cafe there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow,  everybody SEEMS so smart. Everybody has an opinion. Everybody wants to get into the act. I think it would be advantageous if opinions were kept simple and to the point. Quit focusing on what you don&#8217;t want and angle in on a solution. There should be a concise list of pro&#8217;s and cons. I&#8217;m sure if there is a benevolent architect out there or if the right person at Safeway is into pleasing it&#8217;s neighbors, there is a perfect solution for all. That excludes the few that will find fault with anything that is done. It&#8217;s not hard to find out what is currently existing, in terms of structure, already, so I&#8217;m sure someone could draft the &#8220;perfect&#8221; solution to the upgrade and that would be a great starting point. It may not be cost effective, at first for Safeway,  but it will be a great starting point to &#8220;sculpt&#8221; the best resolution for this project. Example: THIS projection will make the neighbors happy. It may cost a little more in terms of year end investments for Safeway yet in the long run if you have happy people it creates good will. You won&#8217;t have neighbors saying that there irked and they&#8217;d rather drive somewhere else and shop because they&#8217;re not going to support a store that doesn&#8217;t care that they are intentionally obstructing their view. I may be naive but I&#8217;m convinced a good architect could come up with winning plan that would appease 98% concerned. I don&#8217;t live near the Safeway so I wouldn&#8217;t be affected. With that in mind, if what&#8217;s proposed really doesn&#8217;t affect the residents view, I think it&#8217;s a great idea. I&#8217;d love to see a Java Beach Cafe there.</p>
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		<title>By: New website launched for La Playa Safeway redesign &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</title>
		<link>http://richmondsfblog.com/2010/01/20/safeway-shares-plans-for-la-playa-store-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-17162</link>
		<dc:creator>New website launched for La Playa Safeway redesign &#124; Richmond District Blog of San Francisco (richmondsfblog.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A new and improved Safeway is in the works for the La Playa location near Ocean Beach. Read more about the project from a January 2010 article [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James L</title>
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		<dc:creator>James L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an architect and live a half block north of the Safeway on 48th Avenue.

We need an improved Safeway.  The present site is a mess:  too much parking, too little landscaping and too little care provided for it, too many bird spikes, and a building of concrete block and covered windows appropriate to a war zone.

That said, I have several comments regarding the proposed replacement.  First, it is misleading to describe the parking as underground.  Saying the parking is underground implies that the store is at grade.  But, in fact, no part of the proposed store is at grade.  At the store entrance the parking is at grade, the store is, at that point, an entire story above grade.  A grocery store not at grade in a residential neighborhood is not a positive thing.  It doesn&#039;t add to the life of the street.  It is inconvenient for many people, especially the elderly and disabled.  And, for the rest of us, it lacks the immediate accessibility typical of neighborhood stores.

Parking below the store will make it difficult to get back and forth to the store, especially with groceries.  Parking isolated on a separate level from the store will seem to be and will be more dangerous  than parking in front of the store.  Isolated parking is especially undesirable because this Safeway is open 24 hours.  I believe that there is not a single supermarket in San Francisco that is both 1) not at grade, and 2) not on the same level as at least some of its parking.

We need an improved Safeway, not a bigger Safeway.  In my opinion, the bigger the supermarket, the less friendly the environment and the less convenient the shopping.  There is no problem with the size of the current store.  Often there are not enough checkers, not because there are too few registers but because there are too many unattended registers. 

I agree with Paul that the proposed elevations are a post-modern mishmash (not his words).  I hope the architects will take a good look at the beach chalet, which is one of the few buildings in the outer Richmond with a kind of design integrity and dignity, the result of the clear and classical articulation of its parts and a simple balance of the vertical and horizontal elements.  I&#039;ve visited the architect&#039;s web site and have seen that they are responsible for the design of a number of projects that are unified and eloquent.  That&#039;s what we need.

Finally, one of the problems with the present store is the lack of landscape and the pitiful care given to the little vegetation on the site.  It is not evident in the plans and perspective that this will be substantially improved in the new proposal.  It needs to be much better than what is there now.

This is not Walnut Creek.  I don&#039;t believe my neighbors need or want a mega-store on the beach.  And this is not downtown San Francisco.  I don&#039;t think we want a supermarket experiment with the store on the second level and the parking in the dark underneath.

I hope Safeway will consider a store of about the same size as the present store, with both the store and the parking on grade like most other neighborhood Safeways (e.g. the Safeway at 7th and Cabrillo).  I think it should face Fulton or La Playa or both with parking in front of it.  Loading should perhaps be to the north of the store in the middle of the block, with a strip of housing (or landscaping) on Cabrillo.

Good luck with this.  I look forward to future public meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an architect and live a half block north of the Safeway on 48th Avenue.</p>
<p>We need an improved Safeway.  The present site is a mess:  too much parking, too little landscaping and too little care provided for it, too many bird spikes, and a building of concrete block and covered windows appropriate to a war zone.</p>
<p>That said, I have several comments regarding the proposed replacement.  First, it is misleading to describe the parking as underground.  Saying the parking is underground implies that the store is at grade.  But, in fact, no part of the proposed store is at grade.  At the store entrance the parking is at grade, the store is, at that point, an entire story above grade.  A grocery store not at grade in a residential neighborhood is not a positive thing.  It doesn&#8217;t add to the life of the street.  It is inconvenient for many people, especially the elderly and disabled.  And, for the rest of us, it lacks the immediate accessibility typical of neighborhood stores.</p>
<p>Parking below the store will make it difficult to get back and forth to the store, especially with groceries.  Parking isolated on a separate level from the store will seem to be and will be more dangerous  than parking in front of the store.  Isolated parking is especially undesirable because this Safeway is open 24 hours.  I believe that there is not a single supermarket in San Francisco that is both 1) not at grade, and 2) not on the same level as at least some of its parking.</p>
<p>We need an improved Safeway, not a bigger Safeway.  In my opinion, the bigger the supermarket, the less friendly the environment and the less convenient the shopping.  There is no problem with the size of the current store.  Often there are not enough checkers, not because there are too few registers but because there are too many unattended registers. </p>
<p>I agree with Paul that the proposed elevations are a post-modern mishmash (not his words).  I hope the architects will take a good look at the beach chalet, which is one of the few buildings in the outer Richmond with a kind of design integrity and dignity, the result of the clear and classical articulation of its parts and a simple balance of the vertical and horizontal elements.  I&#8217;ve visited the architect&#8217;s web site and have seen that they are responsible for the design of a number of projects that are unified and eloquent.  That&#8217;s what we need.</p>
<p>Finally, one of the problems with the present store is the lack of landscape and the pitiful care given to the little vegetation on the site.  It is not evident in the plans and perspective that this will be substantially improved in the new proposal.  It needs to be much better than what is there now.</p>
<p>This is not Walnut Creek.  I don&#8217;t believe my neighbors need or want a mega-store on the beach.  And this is not downtown San Francisco.  I don&#8217;t think we want a supermarket experiment with the store on the second level and the parking in the dark underneath.</p>
<p>I hope Safeway will consider a store of about the same size as the present store, with both the store and the parking on grade like most other neighborhood Safeways (e.g. the Safeway at 7th and Cabrillo).  I think it should face Fulton or La Playa or both with parking in front of it.  Loading should perhaps be to the north of the store in the middle of the block, with a strip of housing (or landscaping) on Cabrillo.</p>
<p>Good luck with this.  I look forward to future public meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great looking plans.  The current store is woefully outdated and tiny (can&#039;t believe that they haven&#039;t had multiple ADA-related lawsuits) and the parking lot is always dirty and depressing. 

The only thing that would make this nicer would be another 20&#039; of height over the whole block, with residential taking up those two stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great looking plans.  The current store is woefully outdated and tiny (can&#8217;t believe that they haven&#8217;t had multiple ADA-related lawsuits) and the parking lot is always dirty and depressing. </p>
<p>The only thing that would make this nicer would be another 20&#8242; of height over the whole block, with residential taking up those two stories.</p>
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